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		<title>By: xinit</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2444/comment-page-1#comment-81670</link>
		<dc:creator>xinit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the Metaspace wikipedia page needs to be flagged for deletion as no longer notable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the Metaspace wikipedia page needs to be flagged for deletion as no longer notable?</p>
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		<title>By: l.m.orchard</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2444/comment-page-1#comment-81611</link>
		<dc:creator>l.m.orchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Of course, the consolation is that this particular storage unit has a roof removable by chainsaw - whereas competing storage units just self-immolate without notice. So... progress!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Of course, the consolation is that this particular storage unit has a roof removable by chainsaw &#8211; whereas competing storage units just self-immolate without notice. So&#8230; progress!)</p>
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		<title>By: l.m.orchard</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2444/comment-page-1#comment-81610</link>
		<dc:creator>l.m.orchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at it this way: 

You&#039;ve been keeping a bunch of Arduino projects, old Heathkit robots, and costumes in a storage unit specially built for that purpose. Lots of other people doing the same thing around the site, too. It&#039;s a fun place.

Then, on Monday of the week of Christmas, when most everyone&#039;s screwing off for the holidays, the owners post a sign on the security gate saying that they&#039;ll be levelling the place on New Years Day.

You didn&#039;t see it until Tuesday, which sucks, because you&#039;re on a plane that afternoon to go see family for the holidays.

When you get back that weekend, you go see about getting your stuff out of there. That&#039;s when you realize, oddly enough, that none of the crap you built fits through the doors in one piece.

Luckily, the owners left you instructions: peel the roof off; use a chainsaw to carve the bigger things up; and use this basic block and tackle to hoist things out.

But, even if you manage to manhandle some of your things out of there, you realize nothing runs off standard household outlets and the rest will never fit back together the same way.

So... yeah. HAPPY HOLIDAYS, FROM OUR CLOUD TO YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it this way: </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been keeping a bunch of Arduino projects, old Heathkit robots, and costumes in a storage unit specially built for that purpose. Lots of other people doing the same thing around the site, too. It&#8217;s a fun place.</p>
<p>Then, on Monday of the week of Christmas, when most everyone&#8217;s screwing off for the holidays, the owners post a sign on the security gate saying that they&#8217;ll be levelling the place on New Years Day.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t see it until Tuesday, which sucks, because you&#8217;re on a plane that afternoon to go see family for the holidays.</p>
<p>When you get back that weekend, you go see about getting your stuff out of there. That&#8217;s when you realize, oddly enough, that none of the crap you built fits through the doors in one piece.</p>
<p>Luckily, the owners left you instructions: peel the roof off; use a chainsaw to carve the bigger things up; and use this basic block and tackle to hoist things out.</p>
<p>But, even if you manage to manhandle some of your things out of there, you realize nothing runs off standard household outlets and the rest will never fit back together the same way.</p>
<p>So&#8230; yeah. HAPPY HOLIDAYS, FROM OUR CLOUD TO YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: James Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really looking forward to Metaplace.  I was eager to use the hell out of it.  I have long approved of Raph and was thrilled about the possibility of creating my own content in his framework.

But I didn&#039;t.  I loaded up Metaplace, and within 10 minutes had decided not to ever use it.  Why?  Because I didn&#039;t see an easy way to save my shit.  I have been through this process too many times to ever be willing to create content in a system where I couldn&#039;t easily save it off elsewhere for later use.  For me Metaplace was a failure before it even launched.

I agree with you 100% with this, Jason.

Raph:  &quot;That said, I think Jason is over the line in accusing us of ignorant viciousness.&quot;

No, Raph, he&#039;s not.  You of all people should have been fully aware of this from day one.  And I do look forward to your next project, but if it again has no way to save my shit, just like Metaplace it will not be something I will use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really looking forward to Metaplace.  I was eager to use the hell out of it.  I have long approved of Raph and was thrilled about the possibility of creating my own content in his framework.</p>
<p>But I didn&#8217;t.  I loaded up Metaplace, and within 10 minutes had decided not to ever use it.  Why?  Because I didn&#8217;t see an easy way to save my shit.  I have been through this process too many times to ever be willing to create content in a system where I couldn&#8217;t easily save it off elsewhere for later use.  For me Metaplace was a failure before it even launched.</p>
<p>I agree with you 100% with this, Jason.</p>
<p>Raph:  &#8220;That said, I think Jason is over the line in accusing us of ignorant viciousness.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Raph, he&#8217;s not.  You of all people should have been fully aware of this from day one.  And I do look forward to your next project, but if it again has no way to save my shit, just like Metaplace it will not be something I will use.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scott</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2444/comment-page-1#comment-80576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlikely - Raph has always staked himself on making a lot of noise about the contract expressly indicating creators continue to own their stuff even if uploaded to Metaplace. I think this whole thing is shitty and incompetent, but I do not think it&#039;s a land-grab. I think they literally failed to plan and have had to drop a 10 day warning. They live in a world where 10 day warnings are OK, which inspires me to think of a host of other things they should consider what a 10 day warning would mean. Like, oh, anything else they&#039;re hosting themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlikely &#8211; Raph has always staked himself on making a lot of noise about the contract expressly indicating creators continue to own their stuff even if uploaded to Metaplace. I think this whole thing is shitty and incompetent, but I do not think it&#8217;s a land-grab. I think they literally failed to plan and have had to drop a 10 day warning. They live in a world where 10 day warnings are OK, which inspires me to think of a host of other things they should consider what a 10 day warning would mean. Like, oh, anything else they&#8217;re hosting themselves.</p>
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