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		<title>By: The Cloud is Dead. Long Live the Cloud. &#124; Miscellaneous Heathen</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cloud is Dead. Long Live the Cloud. &#124; Miscellaneous Heathen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because it completely is (some are even saying sabotage). And it didn&#8217;t take long for some folks to immediately start using the story as proof that cloud-based computing is a bad [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people should take care of their data for themself at first - so in this case storing all important data at home - as a general security help.

Remember: it is YOUR data, you should NOT give others the charge for your data because if they fail then it was their fault - but if you fail it was just your fault.

It is more easy to accept an own mistake i would say as if when others make a mistake and your data is gone forever maybe because of their fault.

You can see it this way: if they make a mistake and your data is gone then your mistake before was to trust others with your personal data which normally only belongs to you - but that is just one half of the truth i know.

This is a personal decision but people are also lazy today and for many it is just easy to give their data into the hands of other instead of thinking for themself.

People have to understand the physics of the internet to understand and solve these problems - they have to take care but many dont have enough experience or knowledge too about the internet and its nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people should take care of their data for themself at first &#8211; so in this case storing all important data at home &#8211; as a general security help.</p>
<p>Remember: it is YOUR data, you should NOT give others the charge for your data because if they fail then it was their fault &#8211; but if you fail it was just your fault.</p>
<p>It is more easy to accept an own mistake i would say as if when others make a mistake and your data is gone forever maybe because of their fault.</p>
<p>You can see it this way: if they make a mistake and your data is gone then your mistake before was to trust others with your personal data which normally only belongs to you &#8211; but that is just one half of the truth i know.</p>
<p>This is a personal decision but people are also lazy today and for many it is just easy to give their data into the hands of other instead of thinking for themself.</p>
<p>People have to understand the physics of the internet to understand and solve these problems &#8211; they have to take care but many dont have enough experience or knowledge too about the internet and its nature.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should generally save important documents on paper ( print them out ) - and if you can put them into a fireproof safe - or if you have the money buy a good (little) safe for your documents.

Internet security is physically security because the internet and this world is a physical place and based on physics.

And if you need an update of your paper ( maybe your contact list ) you dont have to print it out every time - you can also write the new contact down by hand, so simple.

Remember : such data can NOT get lost in a computer problem, and this is nice and important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should generally save important documents on paper ( print them out ) &#8211; and if you can put them into a fireproof safe &#8211; or if you have the money buy a good (little) safe for your documents.</p>
<p>Internet security is physically security because the internet and this world is a physical place and based on physics.</p>
<p>And if you need an update of your paper ( maybe your contact list ) you dont have to print it out every time &#8211; you can also write the new contact down by hand, so simple.</p>
<p>Remember : such data can NOT get lost in a computer problem, and this is nice and important.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason you are right.

The Cloud is a big business buzzword. The Cloud is _nothing_ new - it is just saving your data online. Period. Today partly it is a business concept with false promises, correct - because there is no 100% security at all with computers and computer data so far.

People should always make backups of their data and store it at home and online, in their email account for example. Then when at your place goes something wrong you still have the data online - and reverse - when online something goes wrong you have your data at home.

But you should always ENCRYPT your data in the first place when you store it online because you never know who has access to your data and who not.

People shift their lifes more and more into the internet - and that is a general issue. It is not only about storing data - you can have the same problem on myspace too - if a datalost happens and all your &quot;virtual friends&quot; are gone.

See, i mean you could save your friendslist from myspace at your local computer too, that would be wise - but who is doing this ? Probably not much people. Most people have no clue about the problems computer can raise. They wanna use these services and everything is fine.

People must become aware of the general problems of the internet - and these problems are based on physics, simply said. Things can be destroyed and deleted so you have to keep them on different places.

You could also print out your contacts or friendslist and so on .. and SAVE it on paper - paper can burn but if no fire happens you always have access to your data and a technical data loss can not happen.

Dont trust the cloud. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason you are right.</p>
<p>The Cloud is a big business buzzword. The Cloud is _nothing_ new &#8211; it is just saving your data online. Period. Today partly it is a business concept with false promises, correct &#8211; because there is no 100% security at all with computers and computer data so far.</p>
<p>People should always make backups of their data and store it at home and online, in their email account for example. Then when at your place goes something wrong you still have the data online &#8211; and reverse &#8211; when online something goes wrong you have your data at home.</p>
<p>But you should always ENCRYPT your data in the first place when you store it online because you never know who has access to your data and who not.</p>
<p>People shift their lifes more and more into the internet &#8211; and that is a general issue. It is not only about storing data &#8211; you can have the same problem on myspace too &#8211; if a datalost happens and all your &#8220;virtual friends&#8221; are gone.</p>
<p>See, i mean you could save your friendslist from myspace at your local computer too, that would be wise &#8211; but who is doing this ? Probably not much people. Most people have no clue about the problems computer can raise. They wanna use these services and everything is fine.</p>
<p>People must become aware of the general problems of the internet &#8211; and these problems are based on physics, simply said. Things can be destroyed and deleted so you have to keep them on different places.</p>
<p>You could also print out your contacts or friendslist and so on .. and SAVE it on paper &#8211; paper can burn but if no fire happens you always have access to your data and a technical data loss can not happen.</p>
<p>Dont trust the cloud. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked for companies that had nightly backups--and never bothered to see if the backups were working correctly. Fortunately, I kept my own.

I&#039;ve worked for a company that was constantly considering how they&#039;d implement backups--meanwhile I was distributing data across systems.

My personal system? I&#039;ve been meaning to get around to that...

One thing I haven&#039;t seen mentioned is that the Deaf-with-a-capital-D community adopted Danger early on, so that particular community is disproportionately affected.

Fortunately, the NYT is now reporting that it may not all be lost:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/technology/companies/13sidekick.html?_r=1&amp;nl=technology&amp;emc=techupdateema1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked for companies that had nightly backups&#8211;and never bothered to see if the backups were working correctly. Fortunately, I kept my own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked for a company that was constantly considering how they&#8217;d implement backups&#8211;meanwhile I was distributing data across systems.</p>
<p>My personal system? I&#8217;ve been meaning to get around to that&#8230;</p>
<p>One thing I haven&#8217;t seen mentioned is that the Deaf-with-a-capital-D community adopted Danger early on, so that particular community is disproportionately affected.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the NYT is now reporting that it may not all be lost:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/technology/companies/13sidekick.html?_r=1&#038;nl=technology&#038;emc=techupdateema1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/technology/companies/13sidekick.html?_r=1&#038;nl=technology&#038;emc=techupdateema1</a></p>
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