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	<title>Comments on: Another Blu-Ray Strike</title>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like &quot;Piracy, the better choice (tm)&quot; is winning again:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081117-fake-blu-ray-discs-hatched-in-china-industry-is-concerned.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081117-fake-blu-ray-discs-hatched-in-china-industry-is-concerned.html&lt;/a&gt;

And here is another possibility - use AVCHD to distribute your film on BluRay discs (PS3 plays them, according to Wikipedia).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like &#8220;Piracy, the better choice &#8482;&#8221; is winning again:</p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081117-fake-blu-ray-discs-hatched-in-china-industry-is-concerned.html" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081117-fake-blu-ray-discs-hatched-in-china-industry-is-concerned.html</a></p>
<p>And here is another possibility &#8211; use AVCHD to distribute your film on BluRay discs (PS3 plays them, according to Wikipedia).</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reddit sent a few hundred people here. Let me just drop a couple responses/clarification.

I definitely meant RIAA, not MPAA. The RIAA has had offices in duplication plants since the CD days. They still go through DVDs for copyright violations; the MPAA does not do it this way. On the other hand, the new Blu-Ray discs have, because of this current arrangement, all the information on the persons responsible for an infringing item (and the plant) and can prosecute that way.

I can certainly do a BD-ROM version of the movie and not pay the fees. But the point is that would be a big waste of my customers&#039; time and effort. Same for the hack where you can put blu-ray compatible information on a DVD-ROM. It will be confusing as hell, even if it works in (most) Blu-Ray players. Oh, and DID I MENTION BLU-RAY GETS THE BIOS UPDATED and may in fact stop working that way in the future? Wow, that&#039;s going to hurt people other than me.

As for the semi-clever idea of posting the member list in charge of AACS and sneering that it&#039;s not just Sony&#039;s fault, this is Sony&#039;s format and Sony is the most DRM-happy company in the electronics business. This is what they generally bring to the table. So yeah, blame Sony.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reddit sent a few hundred people here. Let me just drop a couple responses/clarification.</p>
<p>I definitely meant RIAA, not MPAA. The RIAA has had offices in duplication plants since the CD days. They still go through DVDs for copyright violations; the MPAA does not do it this way. On the other hand, the new Blu-Ray discs have, because of this current arrangement, all the information on the persons responsible for an infringing item (and the plant) and can prosecute that way.</p>
<p>I can certainly do a BD-ROM version of the movie and not pay the fees. But the point is that would be a big waste of my customers&#8217; time and effort. Same for the hack where you can put blu-ray compatible information on a DVD-ROM. It will be confusing as hell, even if it works in (most) Blu-Ray players. Oh, and DID I MENTION BLU-RAY GETS THE BIOS UPDATED and may in fact stop working that way in the future? Wow, that&#8217;s going to hurt people other than me.</p>
<p>As for the semi-clever idea of posting the member list in charge of AACS and sneering that it&#8217;s not just Sony&#8217;s fault, this is Sony&#8217;s format and Sony is the most DRM-happy company in the electronics business. This is what they generally bring to the table. So yeah, blame Sony.</p>
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		<title>By: D Keaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Keaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain mate. My mums craft group for this side of the city wanted to make an instructional Blu Ray last year, but the Blu Ray fees were just too much. She would have had to taken out a small personal loan just to get her members the Blu Rays, with no possible way to recover from the costs. Not to mention that she wouldn&#039;t have sold too many Blu Rays anyway, but we rented a HDV camera and she wanted the option out there. DVDs were dead easy in comparison, there were so many people in the DVD presser companies that were so willing to help her, the fees were almost nothing at all, she can start another run on printing again at any time for no extra cost except per disc (in batches of 50 or more) and the resulting DVD came out amazing. For a product that wants to break through into mainstream, Sony really isn&#039;t making it easy for the mainstream to use and buy their product.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain mate. My mums craft group for this side of the city wanted to make an instructional Blu Ray last year, but the Blu Ray fees were just too much. She would have had to taken out a small personal loan just to get her members the Blu Rays, with no possible way to recover from the costs. Not to mention that she wouldn&#8217;t have sold too many Blu Rays anyway, but we rented a HDV camera and she wanted the option out there. DVDs were dead easy in comparison, there were so many people in the DVD presser companies that were so willing to help her, the fees were almost nothing at all, she can start another run on printing again at any time for no extra cost except per disc (in batches of 50 or more) and the resulting DVD came out amazing. For a product that wants to break through into mainstream, Sony really isn&#8217;t making it easy for the mainstream to use and buy their product.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.   So it&#039;s all Sony&#039;s fault.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aacsla.com/founders/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aacsla.com/founders/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.   So it&#8217;s all Sony&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aacsla.com/founders/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aacsla.com/founders/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would stop a duplication plant from manufacturing copies of a Blu-Ray you made with commercial software, like tomorrow&#039;s HD equivalent of iDVD/imToo/whatever?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would stop a duplication plant from manufacturing copies of a Blu-Ray you made with commercial software, like tomorrow&#8217;s HD equivalent of iDVD/imToo/whatever?</p>
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