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		<title>By: Stiffy</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5408</link>
		<dc:creator>Stiffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MajorMUD will forever be a staple in the lives of the faithful.  Long live colored text.

Anyway, great mud available at realmud.com, come check it out!  I&#039;ll hook you up with dough and quests :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MajorMUD will forever be a staple in the lives of the faithful.  Long live colored text.</p>
<p>Anyway, great mud available at realmud.com, come check it out!  I&#8217;ll hook you up with dough and quests <img src='http://ascii.textfiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fitshake</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5407</link>
		<dc:creator>fitshake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 06:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have seen GreaterMUD, it&#039;s like a rewrite of the MajorMUD engine that runs on XP.  You export the entire realm (content) from MMUD and import it into GreaterMUD.  We are talking full MegaMUD client compatibility even import your own content from NMR!  For all intents and purposes to the user it is MajorMUD!

GreaterMUD also eliminates the need to purchase Worldgroup.  Worldgroup was abandoned years before MajorMUD and is the source of many problems that allow malicious users to cheat, crash, and otherwise destroy everybody else&#039;s MajorMUD experience.  Not to mention it will cost you 2K+ to setup a legal Worldgroup/MajorMUD system and GreaterMUD will only cost you $50!!!!!

Face it WCC was the last to give a shit about MajorMUD.  Metro released mod 9 in November 30th 2001, mod 10 is never coming.  GreaterMUD is the continuation of MajorMUD.  It brings the content into the 21st century.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have seen GreaterMUD, it&#8217;s like a rewrite of the MajorMUD engine that runs on XP.  You export the entire realm (content) from MMUD and import it into GreaterMUD.  We are talking full MegaMUD client compatibility even import your own content from NMR!  For all intents and purposes to the user it is MajorMUD!</p>
<p>GreaterMUD also eliminates the need to purchase Worldgroup.  Worldgroup was abandoned years before MajorMUD and is the source of many problems that allow malicious users to cheat, crash, and otherwise destroy everybody else&#8217;s MajorMUD experience.  Not to mention it will cost you 2K+ to setup a legal Worldgroup/MajorMUD system and GreaterMUD will only cost you $50!!!!!</p>
<p>Face it WCC was the last to give a shit about MajorMUD.  Metro released mod 9 in November 30th 2001, mod 10 is never coming.  GreaterMUD is the continuation of MajorMUD.  It brings the content into the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, GreaterMUD, or GMUD for short, is a module that runs on Telnet Game Server, or TGS for short.  TGS is a very lightweight, stable, and efficient telnet server that is pluggable, so new modules can be created for it; either entirely new games or ports of other existing games.

GreaterMUD isn&#039;t so much intended to kill off MajorMUD realms as it is to provide a better and much cheaper alternative with a brighter future for the remaining MajorMUD faithful who have sat around for years hopelessly waiting for any meaningful updates from Metropolis.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, GreaterMUD, or GMUD for short, is a module that runs on Telnet Game Server, or TGS for short.  TGS is a very lightweight, stable, and efficient telnet server that is pluggable, so new modules can be created for it; either entirely new games or ports of other existing games.</p>
<p>GreaterMUD isn&#8217;t so much intended to kill off MajorMUD realms as it is to provide a better and much cheaper alternative with a brighter future for the remaining MajorMUD faithful who have sat around for years hopelessly waiting for any meaningful updates from Metropolis.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Linkon</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5405</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Linkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha.. It seems that Gameport is doing everything it can to get out of the WorldGroup business.

GreaterMUD is killing off the few MajorMUD systems that are left.

Unlike the previous posters I was only a user and never a sysop so I had no idea how bad Galacticomm gouged their customers.  I did use a BBS who went ISP but the SLIP and PPP connections were so unstable the owners dumped them for real equipment.  I will never miss the worldsock crap they put me through.

I do appreciate the people who put these releases out regardless of their legality.  Through their MajorBBS for XP and VMWARE images they&#039;ve enabled people like me to enjoy these games again.  I&#039;d like to say thanks as far as the other shit I agree with Jason who gives a fuck?  Just enjoy it!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha.. It seems that Gameport is doing everything it can to get out of the WorldGroup business.</p>
<p>GreaterMUD is killing off the few MajorMUD systems that are left.</p>
<p>Unlike the previous posters I was only a user and never a sysop so I had no idea how bad Galacticomm gouged their customers.  I did use a BBS who went ISP but the SLIP and PPP connections were so unstable the owners dumped them for real equipment.  I will never miss the worldsock crap they put me through.</p>
<p>I do appreciate the people who put these releases out regardless of their legality.  Through their MajorBBS for XP and VMWARE images they&#8217;ve enabled people like me to enjoy these games again.  I&#8217;d like to say thanks as far as the other shit I agree with Jason who gives a fuck?  Just enjoy it!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Webber</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5404</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Galacticomm and the other ISVs were good at appealing to the market they were in.  You were never part of that market, apparently (neither was I), so I can understand your sentiment that $60,000 was expensive.  The MajorBBS and WorldGroup were never positioned as a hobbiest software package (though, some hobbiests ran these systems, but at nowhere near the cost you mention). Despite what you think about &quot;nobody&quot; having any money left, of four MajorBBS systems I was involved with, one was a hobby board (free) and cost the sysop approximately $600 to set up (not including hardware) and he was 100% legit.  Of the remaining three, only one sysop wound up not making money, the other two made a living on the revenue from their BBS&#039;s (again, fully legit) and one continues to operate today as a full-fledged ISP.

No other BBS software had the technology required to operate at the level, commercially, that the MajorBBS did. You have to consider the &quot;expense&quot; of it in this light.

It&#039;s also in this light that you have to consider that Gamport and other ISVs are still in business, supporting their add-in software commercially.  It&#039;s expensive, and people bitch, but if it were really priced out of the market, they wouldn&#039;t still be in business.

People always like to use &quot;unreasonably&quot; high prices to legitimize illegal activity.  Newsflash - high gas prices have caused a spike in the number of people stealing gas as well, that doesn&#039;t make it any more legal. But whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Galacticomm and the other ISVs were good at appealing to the market they were in.  You were never part of that market, apparently (neither was I), so I can understand your sentiment that $60,000 was expensive.  The MajorBBS and WorldGroup were never positioned as a hobbiest software package (though, some hobbiests ran these systems, but at nowhere near the cost you mention). Despite what you think about &#8220;nobody&#8221; having any money left, of four MajorBBS systems I was involved with, one was a hobby board (free) and cost the sysop approximately $600 to set up (not including hardware) and he was 100% legit.  Of the remaining three, only one sysop wound up not making money, the other two made a living on the revenue from their BBS&#8217;s (again, fully legit) and one continues to operate today as a full-fledged ISP.</p>
<p>No other BBS software had the technology required to operate at the level, commercially, that the MajorBBS did. You have to consider the &#8220;expense&#8221; of it in this light.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also in this light that you have to consider that Gamport and other ISVs are still in business, supporting their add-in software commercially.  It&#8217;s expensive, and people bitch, but if it were really priced out of the market, they wouldn&#8217;t still be in business.</p>
<p>People always like to use &#8220;unreasonably&#8221; high prices to legitimize illegal activity.  Newsflash &#8211; high gas prices have caused a spike in the number of people stealing gas as well, that doesn&#8217;t make it any more legal. But whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: willis corto</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5403</link>
		<dc:creator>willis corto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole majorbbs situation is as absurd now as it was in the 90&#039;s.  Asking hundreds of dollars for this software in 2008 is beyond retarded.  For the uninformed Galacticomm and their ISV/TPD&#039;s have a long history of fucking their customers.  They perfected the art of bleeding their loyal followers so well that in the end NOBODY had any money left to buy their products.  It wasn&#039;t uncommon for these sysops to invest 2, 10, even 60 or more THOUSAND dollars into building their systems.  Anybody who denies this fact is in uninformed or clueless.  Don&#039;t take my word for it go to google groups read alt.bbs.majorbbs and comp.bbs.majorbbs.  Start back in 94 work your way forward, the truth has been archived and it is undeniable.

In the end it did was breed people like Tragic, Trauma, Worlgroup Hack Unit, 2Users, HotHotSun, Dr Code, &#124;RD&#124;, DRAiN, Yohan, ODB, Ozzman, Gwart, Edge, Nomad, NikByte, Virogen, Tronik, NFM, Galacticomm Busters, tNO, The Major Hacker, SPI, DaDude, tas, and scores of unnamed others who have liberated gcomm software for the past 15 years.  No other BBS software in the history of BBS&#039;s had as many people and groups actively liberating it.  The majorbbs restoration people do nothing more than squander the software to insure its demise.  They continually dig up the grave, pound more nails into the coffin and move it to another unmarked grave.  That&#039;s why people continue to track modules down and crack them.

I know of a group of people who have nearly cracked 100% of the modules available today for MajorBBS.  They are moving on to Worldgroup modules and will liberate them in short order.  Fuck the majorBS restoration group they&#039;ve harassed individuals until they left the scene but they wont stop us all... after all, we&#039;re all alike.

NWGEEGD9J 4 life.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole majorbbs situation is as absurd now as it was in the 90&#8217;s.  Asking hundreds of dollars for this software in 2008 is beyond retarded.  For the uninformed Galacticomm and their ISV/TPD&#8217;s have a long history of fucking their customers.  They perfected the art of bleeding their loyal followers so well that in the end NOBODY had any money left to buy their products.  It wasn&#8217;t uncommon for these sysops to invest 2, 10, even 60 or more THOUSAND dollars into building their systems.  Anybody who denies this fact is in uninformed or clueless.  Don&#8217;t take my word for it go to google groups read alt.bbs.majorbbs and comp.bbs.majorbbs.  Start back in 94 work your way forward, the truth has been archived and it is undeniable.</p>
<p>In the end it did was breed people like Tragic, Trauma, Worlgroup Hack Unit, 2Users, HotHotSun, Dr Code, |RD|, DRAiN, Yohan, ODB, Ozzman, Gwart, Edge, Nomad, NikByte, Virogen, Tronik, NFM, Galacticomm Busters, tNO, The Major Hacker, SPI, DaDude, tas, and scores of unnamed others who have liberated gcomm software for the past 15 years.  No other BBS software in the history of BBS&#8217;s had as many people and groups actively liberating it.  The majorbbs restoration people do nothing more than squander the software to insure its demise.  They continually dig up the grave, pound more nails into the coffin and move it to another unmarked grave.  That&#8217;s why people continue to track modules down and crack them.</p>
<p>I know of a group of people who have nearly cracked 100% of the modules available today for MajorBBS.  They are moving on to Worldgroup modules and will liberate them in short order.  Fuck the majorBS restoration group they&#8217;ve harassed individuals until they left the scene but they wont stop us all&#8230; after all, we&#8217;re all alike.</p>
<p>NWGEEGD9J 4 life.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Neidermeijer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Neidermeijer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;stripped of identifying details for obvious reasons

What &quot;obvious reasons?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>stripped of identifying details for obvious reasons</p>
<p>What &#8220;obvious reasons?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tcv</title>
		<link>http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1436/comment-page-1#comment-5401</link>
		<dc:creator>tcv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did this fellow leave links what for folks like me who wants to read more on it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did this fellow leave links what for folks like me who wants to read more on it?</p>
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