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	<title>Comments on: Napster: Did You Forget?</title>
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		<title>By: Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite simple, really. Copying stuff in the real world is hard (to various degrees of hard.) Copying stuff on the &#039;net is easy.

Moreover, it&#039;s *essential.* You can&#039;t communicate on the &#039;net without copying, and you can&#039;t control copying on the net without controlling communication..

Metallica was fighting the last war. I have some sympathy for them, but not for what they wanted to bring about.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite simple, really. Copying stuff in the real world is hard (to various degrees of hard.) Copying stuff on the &#8216;net is easy.</p>
<p>Moreover, it&#8217;s *essential.* You can&#8217;t communicate on the &#8216;net without copying, and you can&#8217;t control copying on the net without controlling communication..</p>
<p>Metallica was fighting the last war. I have some sympathy for them, but not for what they wanted to bring about.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your criticism of Napster the company for it being essentially a company primarily formed in the hopes of extorting the record companies into buying it.

I&#039;m in less agreement about Metallica, and its position on Napster. My problem with Metallica is that the band, and Lars Ulrich in particular, were being somewhat hypocritical in their stance against Napster. Ulrich and Hetfield had acknowledged many times that their early inspirations were a lot of obscure British and European metal bands who they first heard by virtue of tape trading networks, in which they participated. Tape trading, for all intents and purposes, is the analog snail mail precursor to Napster.

I&#039;m certain that tape traders in the early 80s made the same arguments that Napster fans made in the late 90s, that they were spreading culture and doing the traded bands a favor. And I don&#039;t doubt that many of those bands were glad to have their albums copied and sent to the US, just as some bands have embraced file sharing. But I would not argue that ALL bands appreciated having their recordings shared in this manner.

It&#039;s admittedly small point, but one I feel should be acknowledged. Nevertheless, I think that Metallica has actually redeemed itself rather well over the years by offering free live recordings on its website and otherwise embracing nonprofit sharing. And I do concur with the aspect of Metallica&#039;s anti-Napster stance that objected to the for-profit nature of Napster the company.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your criticism of Napster the company for it being essentially a company primarily formed in the hopes of extorting the record companies into buying it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in less agreement about Metallica, and its position on Napster. My problem with Metallica is that the band, and Lars Ulrich in particular, were being somewhat hypocritical in their stance against Napster. Ulrich and Hetfield had acknowledged many times that their early inspirations were a lot of obscure British and European metal bands who they first heard by virtue of tape trading networks, in which they participated. Tape trading, for all intents and purposes, is the analog snail mail precursor to Napster.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain that tape traders in the early 80s made the same arguments that Napster fans made in the late 90s, that they were spreading culture and doing the traded bands a favor. And I don&#8217;t doubt that many of those bands were glad to have their albums copied and sent to the US, just as some bands have embraced file sharing. But I would not argue that ALL bands appreciated having their recordings shared in this manner.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s admittedly small point, but one I feel should be acknowledged. Nevertheless, I think that Metallica has actually redeemed itself rather well over the years by offering free live recordings on its website and otherwise embracing nonprofit sharing. And I do concur with the aspect of Metallica&#8217;s anti-Napster stance that objected to the for-profit nature of Napster the company.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... does that book mention how Napster used to hang out in #cDc getting coding advice from SirDystic?  I have to say that in my recollection, I certainly didn&#039;t get the impression that Shawn was trying to create this as a pure money-making operation, at least not initially.  It was, if anything, an idealistic experiment, or at, worst, a mischevious one.  As I recall, it was more a way of &#039;I want to make something that would allow me and my friends to share music&#039; and only later did the &#039;Hey, we could make money off this&#039; come in to it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; does that book mention how Napster used to hang out in #cDc getting coding advice from SirDystic?  I have to say that in my recollection, I certainly didn&#8217;t get the impression that Shawn was trying to create this as a pure money-making operation, at least not initially.  It was, if anything, an idealistic experiment, or at, worst, a mischevious one.  As I recall, it was more a way of &#8216;I want to make something that would allow me and my friends to share music&#8217; and only later did the &#8216;Hey, we could make money off this&#8217; come in to it.</p>
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